If life is believed to begin at conception and abortion is criticised for ending it, why isn’t IVF being challenged as well?

A lot of anti abortion groups, are also anti IVF for this same reason ❤️ If you believe life begins at conception and do not think people should have the right to abort, you cannot then agree with IVF unless you are going to implant every single fertilised egg when it gets to that stage ❤️ Some people are ignorant and refuse to see logic when it comes to situations with similarities like this, but most of the time from what i’ve seen, they are anti both. Either way, I am pro choice, pro IVF, everything (also it’s impossible to use abortion as birth control, as birth control is to prevent pregnancy, but that’s another conversation that people like to pretend that people do - not saying you just in general) ❤️

I don't see it as often but many pro-life people also disagree strongly with IVF (I'm pro-choice)

@Ellie-May Yes I agree. I am aware some are at least coherent, but I’ve noticed some people are actually not in touch with reality. I believe everyone should have their belief, but you cannot agree with one and not even understand the other one has similar issues. To me that’s strange and if you’re going to criticise one, why are you comfortable with the other?

@FairyMother 🦖🌸 I’ve not noticed this much, what I’ve noticed is people see one as a bad thing, the other as a blessing.

It will. They just couldn’t run on that platform but if people don’t think that’s coming next well there was a gov official not sure what level that was asked a question about it and he seemed against it 🤷🏾‍♀️. IVF is freezing embryos if I’m not mistaken. What happens when people can no longer afford to keep them frozen? You go into debt or jail for killing the embryos. If fire happens. Can you seek child support on them, life insurance. It’s gonna get soooooooooo messy.

Not all pro life individuals support ivf it depends on the person not all pro life individuals are the same , think precisely in the same manner regarding all aspects of unborn human beings. There are pro life individuals who are against ivf and there are others who don’t view ivf in the same manner as natural conception

@Khyia yes definitely. I’ve seen some controversies regarding this already. Based on my understanding not only the embryos are frozen and stored if you’ve got some left, but you don’t just get any embryos put in. They will also be tested and if not good, they’ll be discarded. If life starts at conception, then that means that you’re basically ending a life there because it didn’t meet a certain standard. So how’s one fair, and the other not?

@Donna I don’t think they’re all similar of course, but it makes no sense that you support one but not the other. The procedure alone doesn’t even cover their principles, so how is that acceptable but yet the other needs to be banned even if someone is abused or forced into the pregnancy?

That’s the exact reasoning they will likely use. You discarded these cause they were boys and you wanted a girl. You discarded these cause they have this medical issue. It’s gonna get crazy. And because a lot of people don’t think past what’s presented to them in a nice bow it won’t be an issue until it’s too late.

So I’m pro life and understand what you’re getting at. I don’t personally view ivf as the same as individuals who have made a choice to have sex and are aware of the consequences of their actions. I see ivf as giving individuals who are unable to have children of their naturally a chance to do so. These two aren’t the same in my mind but I have listened to pro life individuals who are against this as well for moral issues - what you’re saying etc. I view it as the creation of life as a good thing in this regard/ Under this specific circumstance that is not a natural alternative. Idk perhaps one day I may evolve to viewing it in a similar manner, however I have not at this particular time

@Khyia Yes, I wonder why people don’t think about a lot of things that would be removed if one is condemned. Because I would understand people pointing out similarities. Or is it because one is a growing business and the other concerns women? 😓

@Donna I think it’s good that you have your belief. I understand where you’re coming from, but IVF is definitely similar in some ways just due to the fact that multiple “lives” are potentially terminated if they don’t meet some standards. As someone mentioned, you can also choose the gender and discard the rest of the embryos especially if you’re not using them or have no extra money to preserve their life. Although it’s understandable because these business want to have positive outcomes. I also think that, how can we say one is killing and the other is a blessing?

It is being challenged. Look at what’s going on in Alabama - they’re going to take it away.

@Micah Yes, I’ve heard of that as well. But they’re not treated the same by people. Yet, one is excused the other isn’t.

With regards to you saying the embroys are disregarded if they dont meet a standard here in the UK that is not correct, they are only disregarded if they do not have the right number of cells that will make a baby, as if it doesn't have the correct number of cells it will not progress to be a baby anyway (whether it was via IVF or natural) you just dont find that out in natural conceptions, so in the IVF world it's heartbreaking to even put an embryo back if it's not going to progress to a pregnancy as its difficult as it is let alone with the heart ache of a failed transfer , it's in no way a comparison to abortions🤯 It's also illegal in the UK to choose gender of the embryos etc which I do think is correct as you shouldn't be able to choose by gender as you can't do that when it's natural so why should you when its IVF!