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@Emily I gave him his vitamin k shot too but even that I was so backwards and forwards about but gave him. Dad is totally against them and I agree with him but can’t help but think about if something is to happen if I don’t🫤 if you don’t mind me asking Howcome you have the first lot? X
@Emily the autism thing was extremely harmful and incorrect. It has since been debunked many times and yet I see it referenced regularly. That man has a lot to answer for. The people commenting on social media can very easily be liars or bots. Please don't trust them. That said I'd rather a mute or autistic child than a dead one. OP please talk to your GP to make an informed decision. Don't listen to people you don't know on peanut(including me). https://www.nhs.uk/vaccinations/why-vaccination-is-important-and-the-safest-way-to-protect-yourself/
I had the first lot just because I hadn’t made a proper decision yet, the time came around and I was still pretty exhausted from everything so just went in for them. But after I had more time to think and I feel like you can get them later if need be. Vitamin k is synthetic and has other ingredients in it but I was induced… again… more synthetic non natural interventions and ended up with emergency c section when it didn’t work… I said yes after a long sleepless week in the hospital just because I had so much other stuff running through my mind
The ingredient list alone. I always say its not informed consent until the doctor can tell you whats in them. If something like food was going into your baby, you would like to know the ingredient list. This seems fair for anything else going into the body. I use the YUKA app. Helps me with everyday items and making better choices. For food and skincare.
@Rachel Agreed, there’s a reason why no studies will say they cause autism vs people commenting it on social media and it’s usually because those comments come from a place of misunderstanding and lack of information around it! Peanut can be helpful for mum worries but rashes, jab advice, baby kicking more/less etc are always best to speak to medical professionals rather than listening to anyone on social media - and if you don’t like the doctor’s response then you can get a second opinion
@Rachel It’s a hard one, I follow a few people who their children had vaccine injuries, they’re real people. It just seems like there’s vaccines for everything and more than there was 50 years ago. I’m 33 and was offered the flu vaccine… but yes, the ingredients list is there online to read
https://www.who.int/campaigns/world-immunization-week/2025 The World Health Organisation is another good source of information. Anyone that thinks the risks of vaccines outweigh the risks of the diseases they are protecting from isn't paying enough attention.
Im giving all..no matter what
To address your concerns with the ingredients: Formaldehyde is used to destroy toxins and viruses (breaking them down into bits the body can recognise but that aren’t able to do us any harm). The formaldehyde concentration is very low in vaccines, less than you would find in cigarettes or certain nail polishes/ hair treatments. Aluminium salts are adjuvants that create a stronger immune response so the body makes a lot of antibodies to fight the tiny amount of inactivated bacteria/virus in the vaccine. Adjuvants have been safely used for decades. Vaccines are thoroughly tested and the formaldehyde and aluminium salts are totally safe in the quantities used. I used to evaluate vaccines using serological assays, where we would take the blood of vaccinated people and challenge it with live pathogens, so I’ve seen first hand how effective vaccines are. Unfortunately I’ve also seen the devastating effects of vaccines-preventable diseases.
I haven’t given my LO any jabs at all….no regrets. I did my research before she was born and decided against all of them. The ingredients list is just one factor, they shouldn’t be justified, they literally have no business being in a baby that cannot even handle water let alone these toxic heavy metals! I’ve also seen first hand, friends & family members babies suffer and regress after having them and the parents saying it’s the worst decision they ever made….it was more than enough to make me steer clear! I believe the mamas that share their heart breaking stories rather than what they put on their websites as ‘guidance’ but that’s me! I have found this to be the most taboo topic on here! I think as a mom you gotta make a decision that feels right for you and your baby, if you have your doubts I call that your gut instinct and I would always follow that over people’s unsolicited advice. Mama knows best so just do you!
@Nisha wow!!! This is the kind of reply I was looking and hoping to see more off. The not so pushy and must do this or that answer - thank you momma!! X
@Emily The guy who first coined the autism link in the lancet journal.... He admitted he lied and made it all up for money. In fact. When he first wrote the article for the lancet he didn't even mention an autism link. It was made up by someone else replying to it. He'd made everything up to profit from a business venture and children literally died because of it. He has since been struck off the medical register, is no longer a doctor and will never work as one again. However, for everything else. If your child is actually ill, I'm assuming you don't go to the doctor? You just go to comment sections on SM? Right?
Formaldehyde is diluted during the vaccine process in order to deactivate any toxins or viruses in the manufacturing process. It's literally used in the tiniest amount to ACTUALLY make it safe. Emily also mentioned Aluminium. Aluminium SALT is used in order for the vaccine to be responded to correctly by the body. Again. To make it safe. Every person on here are hearing words. Having a knee jerk reaction to social media when they have 0 scientific qualifications to understand their uses. The vaccine misinformation is now causing a measles epidemic in the US and is literally killing children. They are there to keep your child alive and I vaccinatef my baby because I want her alive.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/basics/index.html
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@Elisha So I'm assuming you don't take pain killers? Drink alcohol? Also. The information about vaccines and how their made and why their made in this way is literally on the CDC website. So it is informed isn't it.
@Bethany legit. I wouldn't even let my child go near an unvaccinated child. I'd cross the street to avoid them in fact.
@Bethan you assume correct.
Given all vaccinations and will continue to do so. I genuinely wouldn’t want my kid near an unvaccinated child.
@Skye question… when you take your child / children to a play group or soft play or anywhere really do you ask the children’s parents if their children are vaccinated??
My child doesn’t go to soft play and won’t until much older. I wouldn’t be able to feasibly ask if their child is vaccinated. However my original comment was that I wouldn’t want my kid near one, not that I can actually prevent it happening.
To all the lovely ladies expressing dislike for their vaccinated children being around unvaccinated children, isn’t it fair to say (based on your beliefs that vaccines are effective) that your own children are ‘safe’ or ‘protected’ once they’re immunised. Vaccine shedding is more harmful to unvaccinated children in my opinion.
That is true, they’re less likely to catch an illness or have milder symptoms. It doesn’t mean I want them exposed to it unnecessarily though.
@Elisha herd immunity is the biggest factor of effective vaccinations. My husband had his MMR jabs as a child, he contracted mumps as a teenager at university despite being vaccinated, because he was living in close proximity with several people who weren't vaccinated. He's now infertile as a direct result of the damage to his testicles caused by mumps
@Charley so what I’m hearing is, he was let down by the vaccine, that should have protected him?
@Elisha he was let down by other people in society that were also supposed to be vaccinated, as that would have stopped the disease from spreading in the first place.
You cant take away body autonomy from another. A lot of misplaced blame frankly at ‘the unvaccinated person’ Its no wonder the unvaccinated get such discrimination. You will never find studies scientifically stating that these vaccines cause spread of disease because the scientists are financially funded by the vaccine manufacturers. Until that changes, the information will continue to be manipulated. Statistics are the best lies told. The parameters used in these studies are ridiculous. On a personal note. My nan was polio vaccine injured, my daughter MMR vaccine injured and most recently my mum Covid vaccine injured. So i have done the research. Regardless of what Ive learnt, i still think it’s up to an individual to choose for themselves. Freedom over our bodies is so important. I wouldn’t want to take that away from anyone. Knowing what i know now, i hugely regret vaccinating my daughter. This is my opinion based on my personal experience.
I would never forgive myself if something happened to my child that I could have helped prevent! Same reason when pregnant I got the flu jab, RSV etc etc. This isn’t just some game and people trying to pull the wool above your eyes, this is serious. It’s personal choice agreed each to their own but I will be giving mine all vaccinations on the advice of those much more skilled and knowledgeable to make those calls.
@OP thank you, I’m glad you have found my reply to be useful. The reason you don’t see enough responses like mine is because most moms probably can’t be bothered with the drama it brings…I’ve seen it every time, it’s so predictable and textbook that for everyone who speaks there are moms waiting to chat literal shit like you’ve seen above…. ‘I would rather a mute or autistic child than a dead one’…. errmmm if they did their research properly they would know that NO VACCINE IS SAFE! In fact the rotavirus and the MMR specifically come with BLACK BOX WARNINGS which can lead to death but I’ll bet they’ve never seen the packet insert of the vaccine they blindly got their child jabbed with. Even the Vitamin K shot comes with a black box warning and that’s just meant to be synthetic vitamin k! ‘I assume you don’t take western medicine then or go to the doctors or hospital’ 😴 And the winning comment- I wouldn’t want an unvaccinated child near mine 😂👏🏼 that’s the most pathetic one so far!
Ibuprofen also has a black box warning 😂
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Honestly, the people that come with this type of bullshit need to grow up. Your child is no better than an unvaccinated child. If you believe in your vaccinations so much then there should be no problem really! I hate the way society has made it a bad thing to want to protect your child from these poisonous toxins…the media has led you to believe that ‘we are the problem’ and you will see more hate for the unvaccinated than you will for the corporate giants who are poisoning us all but because they are ‘medically trained’ we have to believe they are correct?! They don’t give a fuck about you or your children, they only care about money and profit. Your Gp’s are incentivised and paid big bonuses to have a certain % of their patients vaccinated- hence the pushiness. The vaccine mandate exists so they can continue making this poison and not take any accountability for the damage it causes…why don’t people question that?!
@Nisha like you’ve said above the comment of not wanting to be near unvaccinated children is comical to myself too. Unless you were to go round and ask every person that comes into reach of your child then you could never know it’s just such a silly reason to want to inject baby with something they possibly aren’t really clued up on. It’s also the same people who don’t realise that there is a chicken pox vaccine which more often than not at the moment is only given to vulnerable adults - which having someone in the family who has had this jab. The same people who want them to get that infection to get it “over and done with” I don’t think that people need to be so funny and pushy about the subject it should just be people putting their reason forward and not calling people out for a choice that they have made.
The risks of vaccines are a lot lower than the risks of complications from many of the diseases that are vaccinated against. There's a risk in leaving your house every day. You make the best decision with the information you have, and the information we have (from reputable medical sources) is that vaccines are the best option. There are people out there a lot less privileged than us who would love to be able to vaccinate their children. Taking the decision to not vaccinate comes from a position of huge privilege, and the fact it hasn't had bigger consequences yet(which the anti vaxxers like to cite as evidence that they they're right) is that the vast majority of people do still vaccinate, thus helping protect the minority. You're welcome. For the sake of future generations I hope this continues to be the case.
Op you've clearly already made up your mind and aren't confused, it's obvious from the fact you're only responding to and liking certain comments.
@Charley I’ve come on here for people’s opinions and to get some reasoning as to why people have done it. As for liking certain comments yes you would be correct but have also liked the links that people have added for others like myself to read up on which I have.
@Elisha your opinion is not fact. It's a proven FACT that unvaccinated children are the reason that previously eliminated diseases are making a comeback and killing children. Your decision is killing children. That is a proven fact.
@Nisha No but I won't have myself and my child responsible for children dying. You are the problem. That's a proven fact. You may not like it but that is a proven fact. They're not poisoning you, they're saving lives. That's why you haven't caught Polio. Because a vaccine wiped it out. Jesus. Were you people born stupid or do you practice?
Mother of an unvaccinated child here. My advice is take your time, do your research, do not feel pressured to do anything you don’t feel comfortable or ready doing. As there’s no turning back. Any decision you make make sure you’re at peace with it. I can suggest a bunch of websites/books to read. A great starting point is this https://informedparent.co.uk/
@Skye why wouldn’t you want him around unvaccinated kids if he’s vaccinated though? Isn’t he protected by the vaccines you have given him? So you vaccinated him but still live in fear of germs and disease? What is the point then? I haven’t vaccinated and yet I don’t live in fear at all.
@Dominique I think living in fear is a bit of a strong term. I don’t live in fear of it. I’d just rather him not be around a preventable disease if the unvaccinated kid has potentially been exposed to it or caught something.
Please vaccinate your child. I got blocked on the last vaccine post because I feel so strongly about how stupid and dangerous it is to not give your child vaccines, so that’s all I’ll say and I hope OP makes the sensible choice.
Oh look, more evidence that people who don't vaccinate don't understand how vaccines work. "YOUR child is vaccinated so they're safe RIGHT?" Look up herd immunity. The people not vaccinating are helping the spread of diseases, and whilst vaccinated children are more likely to have less severe symptoms, it's not a fail safe. There are also vulnerable people and children in society who are unable to get the vaccines and not vaccinating puts them at risk too. More people who aren't vaccinated means everyone is more at risk.
@Rachel Actually, vaccinated people can spread the illnesses they’re vaccinated against. Ever heard of outbreaks amongst the vaccinated? Vulnerable people can catch a disease from a vaccinated individual too 🙃 My friend’s son got his MMR at 12 months and full blown measles at 20 months with full body rash, high temperature and all the lot. I pass 🙂
I don't think you've read what I wrote properly. Or looked up herd immunity. Or any of my other comments because never once did I say vaccination was magical and without risk. You're saying your friend's child got vaccinated then caught it? That vaccine probably massively reduced the symptoms then? You can't claim cause and effect 8 months after a vaccine if that's what you're trying to do? So surely it shows how nasty these things can be even if you are vaccinated? Anyway, I've shared reputable links and tried to logically explain the risks of not vaccinating outweigh the risks of vaccinating, it's a hill I'll absolutely die on but for the sake of this conversation I think I've said enough sensible things that have been refuted by misinformed people. I'm not going to go round in circles. OP good luck with your decision. I'm glad you've at least looked at the links/opposing information but it does sound like you have made your mind up already.
@Bethan the post was open to opinions. The facts for vaccination are manipulated statistics. Fact.
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@Rachel we will never know if the vaccine reduced his symptoms to be honest. I know people who had measles and said the flu was worse. I know people who have been injured by the vaccines and wish their children never got them. Everything in life carries risk. Nothing is 100% guaranteed to be safe (have you read the MMR insert?) It all depends what risk you’re most comfortable taking as a mother and what brings you the most peace. All the best,
OP: Any mommas not given their baby these and if not why so? Confused and scared momma 🫤🫤 Cue: Righteous moms who want to preach about why you should get vaccinated 🙄🥱😴 Your ‘advice’ wasn’t even required but yet…here you are 😒 like I said boring, predictable and happens every damn time…this app is full of vile people who like to push their views through fear-mongering….i wonder where they get it from, it’s almost as if they’ve been programmed by something 😂 I’m not even going to bother wasting my time responding to any of these pathetic comments…calling us stupid really just shows the low level people you are…My point well and truly proven! OP - just to finish off, I’ve not come across a mom who hasn’t vaccinated her child and regrets it but I have seen hundreds and thousands of moms share their heartbreaking stories about vaccine injuries. I wish you the best with your decision and trust you will make the right choice for you and your family 🤍 Have a wonderful day momma xx
I had the first lot at 8 weeks, not had any more and he’s 4 and a half months now. Ingredients include aluminium and formaldehyde which is known to cause cancer. I’ve seen untold comments on social media of their child becoming mute after the jabs and linked to autism. As much as they may say there’s no studies to support this… the people commenting are real. I really wish I said no to the vitamin k shot too!