Sleep training sucks

Try the pick up put down mixed with the Ferber. So I used to put mine down leave the room for however long go back in pick him up little bum pat and a shh for about 1 min then back down and repeat for as long as possible. The amount of times you go in will reduce over the days but you have to be strict with it otherwise it just won’t work. You will also get a LOT of hate for sleep training from people who don’t agree with it.. don’t rise to it. Every baby is different, some need sleep training! X

4 months is way too young for any sleep training. My baby was a terrible sleeper. He starts to get better after he turned 1. It's hard as fuck

@Aurélie no its not too young at all, as sleep training doesn't have to mean leaving your baby to cry!

@Elena she 100% is a baby that needs it… she’s 4 months and is sleeping 2 hours max with naps and 8 hours max at bedtime. It’s not enough and she’s overtired most days, so she needs it as much as I do. I did want to do this method, but when I’m going back, she’s not even remotely asleep? We gave up this evening and waited for more sleep cues. She is exhausted and yet I’m still sat here holding her because everytime she drifts off, she wakes back up. I won’t ever just “let her cry” to sleep, so I am happy to ignore anyone that things I’m being cruel sleep training, don’t worry ☺️ at the end of the day, I literally cannot be a good mum if I dread nights constantly and cry with her haha

It’s so so so tough 😩 my first daughter was like this. I almost lost the plot. Only those with bad sleepers know the pain and if you want to sleep train go for it! Mostly time solved it for us but a few things helped if I remember correctly, when she was six months she got a lot better and also I could feel her something like pasta and potato for dinner to keep her full! I lengthened her last wake window, she was a terrible day napper but when she eventually took long naps I had to cap them a bit. I used to wait twenty mins to transfer for a while, and then eventually did some controlled crying to get her to settle. I had a militant bedtime routine, always a bath, sleep sack, white noise. Because she was a crap napper I moved her bedtime really early, 7pm, as she was so wired from lack of naps. I also used to send my husband in to help settle because she used to fuss a lot more for me. Hope that helps sending you lots of luck x

@Georgie mine is very similar I can go in and he’s literally playing around in the bed doesn’t look like but after a few rocks the eyes start rolling and he goes! Be persistent tomorrow just keep at it, I promise you a few rough nights and then you will get there! Good luck xx

Sounds like it has been really tough for you, nobody understands how tiring it really can be being a parent until you are one. If she’s been like that from birth could it be something else going on that’s keeping her up for example silent reflux? Trapped wind? Allergies? I think first thing first is to evaluate the following: -Do you have a conducive sleep environment? (Dark, calm, quiet) -Do you have a bedtime routine? (Bed for 7:30/8:00, start settling at 7 with dim lights, top and tail, nappy change, fresh pjs, rock and then feed, burp, rock again even if asleep and then transfer to cot holding her hand or hand on tummy for 5 minutes) -Do you respond to her needs promptly when you can? This will make her feel safe and secure knowing you will and will likely reduce crying because she knows you’re not going to leave her so she will cry more to get you to meet her needs. -how active are her wake windows? (Stimulating enough, practising new skills etcetera) -spot her sleep cues?

Check out Taking Cara Babies on insta/online. Really great resources to help with just this situation! Also Well Rested Wee ones.

Sleep is so hard. My boy is gorgeous baby angel by day, sleepless gremlin by night. Unless you've had a bad sleeper, you just don't understand the pain of it. I'm not gonna pretend I've got it sussed, but what progress we've made is because of advice in Precious Little sleep by Alexis Dubief. There's a method for most situations. Good luck!

You don’t mention whether you’ve got a partner. If you do it could be worth them leading on the sleep training. I’m BF and it just didn’t work as well when I was comforting our little one.

My boy was always completely untransferrable. I gave up at 6 weeks and started safe bedsharing following safe sleep 7 rules. It was a game changer for us and everyone got more sleep. I personally can’t leave my baby to cry, it feels too cruel 😢 He has a very sensitive temperament though and I know he wouldn’t respond healthily to sleep training. Some kids seem ok with sleep training